Suspect STABmons Suspect 3 - Weavile: Dance with the Devil

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STABmons Council has decided to Suspect Test Weavile!
The unrestricting of Wicked Blow predictably lead to Kingambit getting banned, but Weavile, a relatively low on the viability ranking Pokemon has also been caught in the crossfire of change. Despite this, Weavile has always been somewhat borderline, both extremely potent and yet having zero defenses to speak of and typing brings with it some key weaknesses. Weavile basically necessitates the running of Choice Band or Life Orb to obtain many key 2hko's and, as such, stealth rock is a major thorn in the side of any would-be Weavile user. Furthermore, it's Dark/Ice typing results in very few resists, backed by awful defensive stats, and though fast was very weak to many forms of priority due to the aforementioned issues whether that be Mach Punch, Bullet Punch, Water Shuriken and more. All these issues, however, were not enough to prevent its qualities from shinning through in spite of all this. Weavile strengths far eclipse it's weaknesses.

The first great attribute of Weavile is its amazing combination of high speed and high attack, letting it out speed most of the un-boosted metagame. Next, Weavile has great offensive dual typing in Dark/Ice which results in a few resits, such as Urshifu-Rapid-Strike and Primarina, the latter of which can still be chunked down with hazard support. Weaviles typing granted access to various key moves, but due to its offensive nature, it generally always ran those with the highest damage, namely Glacial Lance, Knock Off (now Wicked Blow), and Ice Shard for priority, the last slot being dependent on whether it was banded or Swords Dance. So potent is its typing and power that it can 2hko Corviknights with either STAB when backed by Tera; this power is the principal problem, not all that dissimilar to the reason why Chien-Pao was banned from STABmons a year ago.

It is due to these qualities that Weavile is quite divisive being fast and powerful, but a defensive liability. It can sweep teams quite readily but faces various offensive challenges in the form of hazards and priority. As a result, it is being suspected so that the community can decide.

Requirements can be achieved by getting 75 GXE in 25 games on the STABmons ladder. In order to participate in the suspect, you must create a fresh alt (creation date no earlier than 1/5/2024) with the prefix STWEA at the start of the name. When you have obtained the reqs, make sure to post proof of your alt's record (generally a screenshot) in this thread, and if you wish to do so, you can also share your thoughts on the test here.

Once the suspect period is over, everyone who has obtained reqs will be tagged. The post will then outline a process of blind voting, which will be clarified once the time arrives. For now, follow the above "Requirements" subheading to ensure that you have posted your reqs correctly. You must post on this thread in order to be tagged in the voting thread, however you do not need to include your vote on this thread.

A super-majority of 60% ban votes is required for Weavile to be banned.

-Weavile will be allowed on ladder
- The GXE requirement is 75 and the minimum game count is 25
- You must ladder on a newly-created alt using the prefix STWEA
- You must post your reqs in this thread, though the voting process will happen in a separate thread. You are not required to state your vote in this thread.
- The suspect test will conclude at 1/19/2024 at 11:59 PM GMT-5
- A ban vote of 60% is required to ban Weavile in STABmons.
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True Coffee Maniac
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Will be voting ban, fairly clean reqs, I lost twice to a series of 50/50 rolls where it was either my opponent losing or me, and the other was losing to a random ass Take Heart Esper Wing Tera Fighting Deoxys-Defense...

Voting ban because it is just a stupid mon, always has been to an extent only kept somewhat in check by it's frailty...

Team I used was :Grimmsnarl: :Weavile: :Iron Boulder: :Gouging Fire: :Rotom-Wash: :Urshifu-rapid-strike:

Straight forward STAB HO, Offensive Grimmsnarl is there to threaten common hazard setters, though don't always lead with Grimmsnarl, vary things up.


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Would've gotten it earlier but I got counterteamed, ladder is that inactive, so it was more of a patience game than really winning for the most part.
Probably will vote ban as the thing just 2HKOs even the sturdiest remotely relevant things with Band, really feels like :Dracovish: on crack.

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Teams used:
:Slowbro: :Glastrier: :Toxapex: :Landorus-Therian: :Sylveon: :Meowscarada: Semi-Trick Room, One of new favorite teams tbh

:Kyurem: :Mamoswine: :Ogerpon-Wellspring: :Ting-Lu: :Skarmory: :Toxapex: Ice Spam, Mamo's really good atm so there,s that

PS: These teams are most likely not that good, so use at your own risk!

Probably voting Ban, wished that Wicked Blow wasn't freed so we could've kept this mon, but what's done is done, and it's better to ban this thing since it's impossible to reliably switch into.

(Obligatory s/o to cat for being the GOAT :3)


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confirming as STWEA RoFnA

I will be voting ban on Weavile most likely. Great Speed Stat + Great Typing + 2HKOing the entire meta with either Wicked Blow or Glacial Lance is kinda whack.

Used this because I wanted to counterteam the stallguy that I kept running into. :Decidueye: :Toxapex: :Great Tusk: :Skeledirge: :Ting Lu: :Gholdengo:(don't use it tho it's outdated)

other teams you can use: :Pelipper: :Zapdos: :Poliwrath: :Bisharp: :Ogerpon-Wellspring: :Raging Bolt:
:Ogerpon: :Rillaboom: :Sneasler: :Moltres: :Ting Lu: :Toxapex:
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